200 - Boredom Eating

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[00:01:24] Maggie: So let's chit chat. And the topic of today's podcast, what I wanted to talk about [00:01:30] was boredom eating. Because I just like to notice trends and I get so many TikTok comments of people that talk about eating from boredom.

[00:01:39] Maggie: And I don't think we [00:01:40] have a podcast specific to that. And as always, like, I don't think it's as cut and dry as like how to solve boredom eating. Often there's something deeper going on. [00:01:50] Or something else going on or something that we're calling boredom eating that maybe isn't boredom eating and what the solve for that is and what it depends on.

[00:01:58] Maggie: So that's kind of what we wanted to talk about today. [00:02:00]

[00:02:00] Ryan: Yeah, I can relate, but, uh, just don't be bored, right? I mean, If that's your problem.

[00:02:07] Maggie: That, it's funny though, because there's just multiple ways [00:02:10] to go with it. It's like, first of all, the question is what is wrong with boredom eating? Being bored.

[00:02:17] Ryan: Nothing.

[00:02:17] Maggie: Nothing. And so, [00:02:20] like, but what do we think is the problem with being bored?

[00:02:23] Ryan: It makes us hungry.

[00:02:25] Maggie: I don't think it doesn't make, yeah, I think we are just so used to being [00:02:30] overstimulated all the time that we think we just deserve to be stimulated all the time. We have a phone, we have snacks, we have the internet, we have online shopping, we [00:02:40] just, we're so used to just this constant input, way more than output, for sure.

[00:02:45] Maggie: That when we don't have that input, when we get to the end of the night, when things slow down, when our thoughts [00:02:50] finally catch up with us, we're like, oh my god, I'm so bored. And also I just think it's really rarely boredom that's actually going on. I think it way more has to [00:03:00] do with the restlessness and discomfort of not knowing what to do with your hands, you know, and not knowing like what to do with this time and this space.

[00:03:08] Maggie: So it's not always, there's [00:03:10] like two solves here. It's like, don't be bored or allow yourself to be bored. Like those are the two options because a lot of people will override boredom with [00:03:20] busyness and that's normally running from something else too. Why don't we want to be with ourselves? What, what is so scary about that?

[00:03:25] Maggie: I

[00:03:25] Ryan: do that.

[00:03:26] Maggie: Yes, you do. Yeah. [00:03:30] In a big way, you do that.

[00:03:31] Ryan: Uh huh. I don't, well, especially on the weekends, I struggle with being restless.

[00:03:36] Maggie: Yeah. And I just think it's because we have such a low tolerance for just [00:03:40] like, what's going on in my head? What's going on in my body? Why do I feel like I have to be moving all the time?

[00:03:44] Maggie: Like what, what meaning am I giving to stillness and space? Why do I feel like I have to fill this [00:03:50] space with something? And most people aren't asking that question at a deep level. They're like, I'll go get a snack. That'll fill the space. Because I'll get to like, walk in there, check everything out, test some things out.

[00:03:59] Maggie: And it, [00:04:00] what does it do? It fills the space. And We

[00:04:02] Ryan: do it with TikTok too. Scrolling TikTok. Oh

[00:04:05] Maggie: my god. That's my Yeah. That's mine.

[00:04:07] Ryan: Yeah.

[00:04:08] Maggie: So it's like, as much as I'm not like, [00:04:10] busying myself the way you do, I busy myself with distraction.

[00:04:15] musuc: Yeah.

[00:04:15] Maggie: I don't want to be bored. I don't want to be, I don't want to just be with myself and I have to [00:04:20] so actively remind myself of the gift that being with yourself is because I just, you know, I've got ADHD.

[00:04:27] Maggie: I'm like, you know, I got a dopamine deficiency as it [00:04:30] is. I'm wanting that input. I'm wanting to feel good. I'm wanting to distract. I'm wanting to keep the, you know, ever since I heard someone refer to TikTok as a dopamine slot [00:04:40] machine, it's stuck with me forever. Yeah,

[00:04:42] Ryan: it is.

[00:04:42] Maggie: And it's just like constant input, constantly changing, constantly novel, and it's just like you, you will feel so [00:04:50] busy and, and stimulated.

[00:04:52] Maggie: And you get nothing. It is fake. It is. I'm not saying that the dopamine pit isn't, isn't real, but the [00:05:00] pleasure is fake. It is fake pleasure. It is fake.

[00:05:02] Ryan: What do you mean? Because it is, it is throwing up dopamine in your brain, I'm sure. Yeah, but there is actual pleasure [00:05:10] because when you put your phone down, the lack of dopamine is uncomfortable.

[00:05:15] Maggie: Yeah. But that's just because we're used to something that, like, I truly, [00:05:20] in my bones, do not believe our brains were set up for. Our brains were not set up for notifications and getting approval by likes and comments and input and [00:05:30] instant feedback and instant input. Anytime you just stick your hand in your pocket, you can transport yourself somewhere else.

[00:05:37] Maggie: It's like, this. It is an [00:05:40] unwillingness to be with ourselves. It's, it's, it's never been this bad of a problem ever. So it's, is it, I want to say like the dopamine isn't fake, [00:05:50] but the, the pleasure and the joy and the satisfaction we're getting is fake.

[00:05:56] Ryan: It's masking.

[00:05:58] Maggie: It's masking something and it's not the [00:06:00] true lasting pleasure.

[00:06:01] Maggie: I feel like in the past before we had technology, before we had all these ways to distract ourselves, the dopamine had to work. We're smaller, but you had to [00:06:10] work for them. Huberman talks about that all the time. I was just going to say that. He's like, do not, and Huberman, just so you know, if you're listening to this, I don't follow any of your advice here, but he's like, don't work out with [00:06:20] caffeine, with loud music, like you're flooding the dopamine system, which like my goal when I wake up is I flood the dopamine system.

[00:06:26] Maggie: I'm sorry. It's probably not good for me. But I've read so [00:06:30] much about how you start your day determines how much dopamine you're chasing for the rest of the day. If you wake up, you check your notifications, you get your body into fight or flight, you get the pleasure of [00:06:40] swiping, you get the pleasure of notifications and what are people saying and what are people doing, you have set the tone for the whole rest of your day to be on that chase.

[00:06:48] Maggie: And that is going to make [00:06:50] boredom feel absolutely intolerable and foreign to what you have been doing all day. busying yourself. And [00:07:00] so many people think they have these night eating problems. And I'm, I, again, we have to take it deeper than that. Your, your thinking is catching up with you and your day is slowing down and [00:07:10] you're looking for a way to distract.

[00:07:12] Ryan: Question. Is it terrible to replace the eating with something else for now?

[00:07:19] Maggie: That's always one [00:07:20] of those, it depends type of things. Because the other side of this is, if you're so bored, Let's solve the boredom, but let's not solve the [00:07:30] boredom with just distraction, let's solve the boredom with what do you want to do with this space, because I don't know if you're like me, but when we were working these, these jobs where we were gone all [00:07:40] day and you had the commute and you were there all day and then you had the commute home.

[00:07:43] Maggie: All I was ever telling myself was like, if I just had more time, if I just had more space for myself, like, I would [00:07:50] do whatever. And then I found like, once I got that space, I was just filling it with bullshit. I still do that. I still have a terrible, like, this is not something that I've, I don't solve it with eating [00:08:00] anymore, but I definitely do other things to distract.

[00:08:02] Maggie: So it just kind of depends because at the end of the day, I don't think it's always bad to watch trash television. [00:08:10] I don't think it's always bad to have a snack with a movie. I don't think it's always, I don't think distraction is always bad. It's just a scale. And so [00:08:20] you can solve for the boredom in a way where it's like, build your dreams, but a lot of us don't want to do that at the end of the day when we're tired.

[00:08:25] Maggie: You can solve your boredom by going on a walk, but you have to Check in with yourself. Is this just [00:08:30] me distracting myself? So it really is one of those depends thing. There are sometimes when I want to solve for it and other times where I'm like, let's just see what it's like to sit with yourself. What are you [00:08:40] afraid of?

[00:08:40] Maggie: What, what thoughts are coming up? What are you? That sucks though. But that's the whole, that's the whole hack with all of this. You know, that thing, that quote from Brooke Castillo, where she said, we [00:08:50] don't have an overeating problem. We have an under feeling problem just defines it all. It's like, we don't have an overeating problem when we're overeating.

[00:08:57] Maggie: It's because we're refusing to feel something else. [00:09:00] That's it, you're going to have two choices, eat or feel. And so many people are choosing eat so much more than they're choosing feel. And the biggest hack I've ever [00:09:10] embraced in my life is allowing myself to feel shitty and allowing myself to feel bored and seeing what exists in this space when I'm not stuffing it with distractions.

[00:09:19] Maggie: With [00:09:20] food, with the internet. With TikTok, with, oh, I'm going to go for a workout, because even that can be something that's like, I can't, I cannot be with myself. And our ability to be with [00:09:30] ourself removes the need to distract. And again, I'm on, I'm all, I think we'll always be in the middle of this because have you ever tried to [00:09:40] reduce phone time?

[00:09:42] Maggie: And you realize that you look at your phone for weather, for your calendar, like you try to not have it in your hand and then you realize [00:09:50] anytime I have a question, I Google it. Like, you can keep yourself off social media, but this freaking device in your hand has you always being able to distract. And so food falls into that same [00:10:00] category.

[00:10:00] Maggie: It's like, it's always going to be there. If you don't know what to do with this space, so what do you want to do with the space? And I recommend a nice [00:10:10] balance of things to do and time to just be like, let's just see what's here. Because all of the junk pops up to the surface and no, it's not comfortable, [00:10:20] but that is what it's like to be with your emotions and be with your thoughts and be like, you hear these thoughts that are like, you're so lazy, don't you have something better to do?

[00:10:28] Maggie: What a waste of time [00:10:30] watching this show. You're on your sixth episode. You realize all that negative self talk rises to the surface, and I know that doesn't feel good, but it's [00:10:40] also happening. We don't want to not know that it's happening.

[00:10:43] Ryan: Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to strike this balance in my head of like, what's, what's [00:10:50] healthy distraction?

[00:10:51] Ryan: What's needing to feel your feelings? And I'm just thinking about my own experiences, I guess. I don't, I don't. I don't relate to a [00:11:00] boredom feeling. I relate to a feeling of restlessness when I don't know what that comes from. And I

[00:11:07] Maggie: think that's more what people are referring to. Boredom, [00:11:10] to me, boredom feels like an emptiness.

[00:11:12] Maggie: Like, if I were going to describe how it feels in my body, like, it feels like an emptiness. It feels like, kind of like you're in this room and you're kind of like, I don't know what to do. [00:11:20] Versus restlessness feeling like, I don't know what to do. Like, do something. That's what it is.

[00:11:26] Ryan: Because I like to be productive if I'm not working on work.

[00:11:29] Ryan: Yeah, but [00:11:30] what do you make it

[00:11:30] Maggie: mean if you're not being productive?

[00:11:34] Ryan: I don't make it mean anything. I just, I'd like to feel productive.

[00:11:37] Maggie: Why though?

[00:11:38] Ryan: I like to, I like to stay busy. [00:11:40]

[00:11:40] Maggie: But why? I'm gonna annoy you with the why questions. That's fine.

[00:11:43] Ryan: Um, because it makes me feel good. It makes me feel like I'm getting stuff done.

[00:11:48] Maggie: Yeah. Which isn't, [00:11:50] it's not bad to be productive. That's what I'm saying. It's not bad. But, It's bad if you can't switch that off, and, and have that space to not be productive. Because [00:12:00] it's not a problem to be productive and feel good about that. It's a problem when you're not productive, and you're telling yourself, I should be doing something.

[00:12:06] Maggie: And that's the reason I'm trying to take it deeper, is because for most of us, the meaning [00:12:10] is, I could be moving things along, I could be growing things, I could be, you know, making something of myself, I could be pushing things forward, so that when you're not in that space, you feel like, [00:12:20] I Resting is wrong.

[00:12:21] Maggie: It doesn't feel good. And then we avoid the resting and the recovering. I

[00:12:25] Ryan: don't resonate with that either because I still have my downtime. I watch my Dodgers games. I'll [00:12:30] scroll TikTok for a little bit. I'll, um, you know, listen to an audio book while I'm walking, stuff like that.

[00:12:36] Maggie: Well, it's going to be a balance.

[00:12:37] Ryan: Yeah.

[00:12:37] Maggie: But you also have a huge intolerance [00:12:40] for

[00:12:41] Ryan: What it is is like on the weekends, like during the day when the kids are home and nobody has like anything to do really, that's, [00:12:50] that's when the restlessness kicks in for me.

[00:12:51] Maggie: Yeah. That's when it's most major.

[00:12:53] Ryan: Yeah.

[00:12:53] Maggie: Yeah. And you're going to be able to find your balance between like what your expectations are for keeping yourself not [00:13:00] bored.

[00:13:01] Maggie: But then in the boredom is normally the space of creation and the space of growth and like not being bored, but allowing yourself. So, yeah. yourself to let the boredom be there [00:13:10] so that something else can sprout from it. You know, like, what do I want to do with this space. If you're always busy and you're always kind of running around doing stuff, it's hard to get into that [00:13:20] creative space where I think ideas and creativity are born.

[00:13:24] Maggie: And then there's also time to just watch fuckin Bravo. You know, it doesn't I [00:13:30] in the training that I went through as a life coach, there was so much training around like, never buffering. That's the way we were taught buffering is the same as distracting. [00:13:40] It's like I'm avoiding an emotion. So I'm going to eat.

[00:13:42] Maggie: I'm going to scroll. I'm going to I'm going to do something for fake pleasure, so that I don't get the real pleasure of like putting in work. And it [00:13:50] was kind of made to feel like. any form of distraction was always bad. Like you shouldn't, there just didn't ever feel like room for like actual rest [00:14:00] or like there were good ways to distract, like doing something, like working, like cleaning.

[00:14:05] Maggie: And then there were bad ways to distract, like eating, drinking. Most of it, [00:14:10] let's be honest, is over eating, over drinking, over Facebooking, over, you know, Tick tocking, but there was always this underlying feeling that like we shouldn't [00:14:20] ever be numbing ever. And I don't agree with that. Like that's one of the things that I push back on as far as like my training is concerned because like [00:14:30] sometimes those things are regulating for us.

[00:14:32] Maggie: Sometimes those things allow us to come back into our body. Sometimes those things allow us to leave our body for a little bit and check out for a little bit and come [00:14:40] back when we're ready.

[00:14:41] Ryan: So that's what I'm saying. Like, I think they're I think it's okay to replace other distractions with food for now.[00:14:50]

[00:14:50] Maggie: Replace food with other distractions. Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think it's a bad ladder step. A

[00:14:55] Ryan: stepping stone.

[00:14:55] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:14:56] Ryan: You know.

[00:14:56] Maggie: Just, just when it comes to the way that you are [00:15:00] kind of dealing with that boredom, does it serve you a little bit better than the overeating did? And that's what I found. Like I said, I waste a lot of time on TikTok.

[00:15:07] Maggie: I get paralyzed. I get stuck on my couch on my [00:15:10] bed where I'm like, Oh my God, I got to get up. You know, like I'm stuck. Um, And it affects my, you know, it affects my productivity probably, but [00:15:20] it's not overeating.

[00:15:21] musuc: Yeah.

[00:15:21] Maggie: You know? And I, I do have a way, I'm much more able to sit with my emotions and to be able to feel bored and to be like, this is not going to kill me.

[00:15:29] Maggie: Just imagine [00:15:30] what's possible for you if you have the ability to sit with boredom and be like, yeah, I'm bored. So I'm going to sit and look out a window. What do you think we did before we had computers and phones?

[00:15:37] Ryan: You know what I'm realizing? What? I have memories of [00:15:40] my childhood of feeling bored and it felt like torture.

[00:15:43] Ryan: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:15:43] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:15:44] Ryan: Like growing up, like, um, you know, like when you had your friends over and you were trying to find [00:15:50] something to do all day and you literally couldn't find anything to do or like, I have memories of, um, Sundays we weren't allowed to go out and play. We had to stay in the house.

[00:15:59] musuc: Yeah.

[00:15:59] Ryan: [00:16:00] For, uh, you know, religious reasons.

[00:16:01] Ryan: But. Um, like the neighborhood kids would come, ring the doorbell, can Ryan come out and play? No, it's Sunday. You have to stay inside. And those [00:16:10] memories, they stand out so vividly.

[00:16:13] musuc: Yeah.

[00:16:13] Ryan: And I, it was so bad. I didn't like it at all. Maybe that's something, that's got something to do with why [00:16:20] I don't like it.

[00:16:20] Ryan: Something

[00:16:20] Maggie: to explore. Yeah. It, it probably stems from an early age and then just you think about the way things are set up now in our world, it's like, you don't ever have [00:16:30] to be alone with yourself if you don't want to. Yeah. Ever. You never have to be alone with yourself because you've got a phone in your pocket.

[00:16:35] Maggie: Because you have snacks in the pantry. Because there is always something to put in that [00:16:40] hand. You know what I mean? Back then I

[00:16:40] Ryan: was literally just staring at a wall because there was no phones or computers, you know, like it was torture.

[00:16:46] Maggie: Yeah. But then what, what did you do though? I don't know. Figured something out at some [00:16:50] point, right?

[00:16:50] Ryan: Eventually at some point. Yeah. Like

[00:16:51] Maggie: you had some tolerance for boredom at that stage. And, you know, other people. Yeah. Oh. Like, I truly wonder, you know, [00:17:00] we, we see all different people online and the way that they share things. Like, how do you think Hormozy would answer boredom? Have you heard him say anything?

[00:17:07] Maggie: He's such a

[00:17:08] Ryan: robot.

[00:17:09] Maggie: He's a, [00:17:10] he's an animal for sure. But I honestly feel like what he would tell you is like, there's no excuse to be bored. Fucking do something. Like go. You know, use that time. He would be business [00:17:20] minded. Like, you're gonna get different advice. Do

[00:17:22] Ryan: you think he ever rests?

[00:17:24] Maggie: I mean, I think he, I mean, no, but he'd probably tell you that he doesn't.

[00:17:28] Maggie: He would tell you he doesn't need rest. It's [00:17:30] not important to him. He doesn't, if you need rest, go ahead and rest. Don't tell me I need to rest because I, I'm fine without resting. Um, yeah. So anyways, I just like to think of those kinds of [00:17:40] things because you would get so many different opinions on this and I feel like we've even given you multiple different opinions.

[00:17:45] Maggie: Like, it depends and it depends on what's right for you. But what I can tell you [00:17:50] is that overeating and a snack at your pantry And standing over your sink, shoveling chips into your mouth, like, are, is not the only option. [00:18:00] There are other options, but one that I think is very important is just allowing yourself to feel bored and asking yourself, what do you want to do with this boredom?

[00:18:07] Maggie: If we weren't running from it immediately and being like, oh my god, I feel [00:18:10] bored, fix it. If, if our emotions weren't a problem, What would that space tell you? Would it tell you that, what, what is the need it's signifying?

[00:18:18] Ryan: That's what I'm, that's what I'm wondering. [00:18:20] Yeah. Why is boredom creating urgency?

[00:18:24] Maggie: Urgency to fix and eliminate ASAP.

[00:18:27] Ryan: Why is it bad?

[00:18:28] Maggie: Yeah.

[00:18:28] Ryan: Why do we think boredom is [00:18:30] bad? Yeah. It's probably different for everyone.

[00:18:35] Maggie: That's what you, that's why you have to dig into like, what's the need here? Because the need could be, I need more [00:18:40] fulfillment in my life. I feel empty at the end of the day. It could mean, and remember if we're, if we're alternating the words restlessness and [00:18:50] boredom, like it could mean that I actually need to rest.

[00:18:52] Maggie: It could mean that I need to check out for a little bit. How do I want to check out? I even, I would recommend even making like a boredom menu. Like, [00:19:00] A menu of things that you can do next time you're bored. Like, what are the things that I can try? If, if I'm trying to solve for the boredom, how would I do that?

[00:19:07] Maggie: If I'm trying to allow the boredom, how could I do that? If I'm [00:19:10] trying to distract in a new way, how could I do that? Like, what are the options here so that we can figure out what's the problem here? What's, what's the issue we're trying to solve? Do you have the [00:19:20] ability to let yourself just lay on a couch and look at the ceiling?

[00:19:23] Maggie: If not, why not?

[00:19:25] Ryan: Absolutely not.

[00:19:26] Maggie: Yeah. And if not, why not?

[00:19:28] Ryan: The more I'm thinking about this [00:19:30] and the people commenting about they eat because they're bored, I have a hard time believing anyone is actually bored. There's too many easy ways to be board, [00:19:40] to not be bored. You're not bored, you're, you're watching Netflix and you're sitting on a couch and you feel like you need to be eating food while you're doing that.

[00:19:47] Maggie: Yeah. Or you're sitting on a couch watching [00:19:50] Netflix and telling yourself, I should be doing something else. Like I need to be eating or I should be working or I should be pushing that thing forward and we have this restlessness that we feel like we need to. [00:20:00] It's like, it's just a combination of do you need to rest?

[00:20:03] Maggie: Do you need to be less bored? Do you need to allow the boredom to exist? Like what is it? I don't

[00:20:08] Ryan: believe anyone's bored. [00:20:10]

[00:20:10] Maggie: Yeah, I

[00:20:10] Ryan: don't,

[00:20:13] Maggie: I'm just thinking about what you're saying because I, I had a client recently ask, how do I tell the difference between eating [00:20:20] for boredom or eating for like comfort? And I just kind of said, I, I think it's all emotional.

[00:20:26] Maggie: I don't think there's really, it's not that important unless you're really [00:20:30] trying to solve it. But the, the way I see it. Eating for boredom is the same as eating for comfort, right? You're eating because there's an emotion that you don't want to feel. There's a [00:20:40] state of being in that you're like, don't like this, and I don't know what else to do other than eat.

[00:20:45] Maggie: So you have to figure out, what else can you do other than eat? Eating is just one option.

[00:20:49] Ryan: [00:20:50] I think the real tell here is when you, when you're getting urges to eat, and if you Pause for a second and listen to your stomach, and there's no [00:21:00] signals from your stomach to say, eat, then you know it's your emotions telling you to eat.

[00:21:05] Maggie: Yes.

[00:21:06] Ryan: Right?

[00:21:06] Maggie: And that's when you have the conversation of, okay, I'm feeling bored. [00:21:10] I'm feeling restless. I'm feeling like I don't like sitting in this empty space. Yeah. Does food solve for sitting in an empty space? I guess [00:21:20] the answer to that question is, how do you define solve? Will it distract? 100%. Will it solve for something that's not even hunger?

[00:21:27] Maggie: That is actually just space. [00:21:30] Actually solve? No. It's not gonna solve. Same, same for everything. Same for any type of emotional, and again, like, it's not the worst thing if you eat for boredom, but please don't [00:21:40] let that be your only solve for boredom or your only solve for loneliness or your only solve for any emotion.

[00:21:45] Maggie: All of us are going to emotionally eat sometimes. There is no shame in that.

[00:21:48] musuc: For sure.

[00:21:49] Maggie: For sure. [00:21:50] But you do not want that to be like this habitual go to that you're using every single night Yeah. Because you don't like the sound of your own thoughts.

[00:21:58] Ryan: My go to, I [00:22:00] get the most food urges when the kids are being crazy.

[00:22:03] Maggie: Yeah, and that's overstimulation. Overstimulation.

[00:22:06] Ryan: And I always have to like pause for a second and like listen to my stomach. [00:22:10] And tune into my stomach.

[00:22:12] Maggie: Because if you listen to your brain, what's your brain, it's going to be like, stop this feeling ASAP. Snacks, eat. And remember, it's like, In the [00:22:20] past, to get dopamine, we, we had to work really hard.

[00:22:23] Maggie: And your brain's job is to make things as easy as possible and use as little energy as possible. And so when you bring snacks [00:22:30] into it, we're talking five steps into the kitchen and a grab into a bag. And we've, we've temporarily solved this problem, very temporarily. But your brain is very smart. [00:22:40] It's, it's not thinking of like how you can grow your goals and your create your success.

[00:22:44] Maggie: It's not thinking about that. It's how do we dull this emotion? How do we damper what [00:22:50] we're feeling inside of us? How do we lessen this vibration in our body and put food into it? For sure, that'll absorb some of this. And it's, it's, it's just not [00:23:00] helpful. And so yes, it does require us to have those conversations where we tell ourselves the truth.

[00:23:04] Maggie: Food will not solve for boredom. So how would you like to solve for it? And in those cases, if you know that you're a boredom [00:23:10] eater, a restless eater, an emotional eater, I recommend having some type of list handy of some type of menu of things that you can choose so you don't have to think so [00:23:20] hard because remember your brain is trying to use as little energy as possible and make it as easy as possible.

[00:23:26] Maggie: So your defaults are going to just be the easiest to reach for and [00:23:30] in order to rewire that pathway you're going to have to practice other things and I recommend being prepared in advance as with everything that I teach. You're making the decision of [00:23:40] how you're going to handle your boredom eating before you're in the middle of your boredom eating.

[00:23:44] Maggie: That's too late. And so much harder than deciding, I'm someone who eats from boredom, how do we solve this next [00:23:50] time? How do we attempt to? What's the first thing we want to try to get to the bottom of this?

[00:23:56] Ryan: I think that's good.

[00:23:57] Maggie: I think so too. All right. Talk to you guys next week. [00:24:00] See

[00:24:00] Ryan: ya.

[00:24:00] Maggie: If you've been trying to lose weight, but haven't found a way of eating that you can stick to.

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